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Re: Daughter won't go back to school

@jrn 

Maybe there's a hole in her life that this toxic relationship used to fill? Perhaps what she really wants is a new relationship to fill this hole that offers all the positive aspects that this relationship used to provide her with, without any of the toxic elements?

There are good people out there, if you know where to find them. (Just for the record, I don't, lol.)

At least, if she is anxious to leave school ASAP, it sounds like she has contacts in the workforce to help her get employment quick smart.

Re: Daughter won't go back to school

Also some forms of bullying are excluding and hateful vibes and other discreet stuff that cant be proven.

Re: Daughter won't go back to school

Totally @Rovja ! You couldn't be more correct!

Re: Daughter won't go back to school

@chibam 

Hopefully.  It's hard to know what is genuine and what is not from her at the moment. Hopefully a bit of therapy helps open the lines of communication a bit more. My wife and I would like to be more approachable as parents,  but would also like our daughter to see the need to be open and honest,  eventhough that isn't even on the radar of most teenagers.  I told alot of lies to my parents growing up, but didn't think they were so damaging,  I am starting to realise as a parent that they probably were. 

Re: Daughter won't go back to school

@jrn 

Well, you can't afford to be honest with your parents, can you? They're not really on your side; they're on the side of the imaginery child they really wish they had. So their just trying to figure out the most effective way to control you, to get you to pantomime this character they dream of as accurately as possible.

Maybe this episode with this toxic companion of hers has served as a bit of a wake-up to her regarding relationship dynamics in terms of how we treat people in our lives, relative to the imaginary characters we want them to be, or presume them to be?

I know that in my early adulthood I got a pretty rude shock finding out that friends of mine we're the characters I'd always wanted/presumed them to be. I dearly loved those imaginary characters, but the real people were absolutely horrible.

The ordeal gave me a lot of insight into how we delude ourselves into seeing what we want to see when we look at someone, and then allowing our love for that mirage to delude us into thinking that we love the person, because we presume them to be one and the same.

It helped me a great deal to understand the behavior of my parents, who always claimed that they loved me, but never failed to lash out at me when I faltered in play-acting this imaginery character of theirs who definitely wasn't me. They've just never been willing to admit to themselves that the imaginery character and me are two very differant people.

Maybe your daughter's ordeal with this toxic figure has offered her similar enlightenment? Maybe learning that she wasn't seeing what was really there when she looked at this person has given her some understanding that you probably don't see what's really there when you look at her?

Re: Daughter won't go back to school

Thankyou so much for the reply, I has given me alot of insight into what we may be missing as parents. Hopefully we can find a happy medium along the way.